10. Ashley Zanolli, EPA

Ashley Zanolli has been a food waste warrior for more than 17 years, working on various state and national government initiatives to support sustainable food management, water quality and climate sustainability. While at the Environmental Protection Agency, Ashley’s team developed the community-based social marketing campaign “Food: Too Good To Waste” to inspire behavior change and reduce food wasted at home. Today, she advises on the development and implementation of a national strategy to reduce wasted food and increase organics recycling across the supply chain. On this episode of “Food Lab Talk,” Michiel speaks with Ashley about how her career path has transformed the way she thinks about protecting the environment and addressing climate change; her learnings on how to guide consumer behavior change; and her perspective on the role of government in combating food waste. 
 
Ashley Zanolli: “The timeline for systemic change is rather long, relative to our lifetime. How do you set the stage as if it were a play so that the props we need to build the food system we want are eventually the only ones that are available? And you can do that through policies, through incentives, through different structures so that disparate entities and non-traditional partners start to see what's in it for them in new ways. At this point, given projected climate impacts, security of supply inflation, the stakes are too high not to work together and I think you are de-risking the system when you focus on preventing food waste.” 
 
01:07 Intro on Ashley 
05:49 Redefining the term “food waste” 
07:29 Government’s role in fighting food waste 
08:35 Driving action and prevention through comprehensive goal setting 
09:43 Amplifying systemic impact via public-private partnerships 
13:00 Staying motivated to drive slow-moving change 
17:23 Opportunities to fight waste in the system 
18:20 Why we need to break down silos and measure differently 
21:31 How might we accelerate progress on known solutions? 
23:00 Consumer behavior change as the “unlock” to progress 
24:10 Incentivizing boots on the ground 
25:16 How to: guide systems change 
27:02 Focus on the outcome, not the solution 
28:20 What it takes to influence a system: translating, listening, and more 
30:56 Why you shouldn’t be afraid to ask dumb questions 
32:29 Anyone can be an expert 
33:36 Doing work “with” not “for” people 
35:25 What to look for in a mentor and where to find one 
 
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10. Ashley Zanolli, EPA
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